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of hope that some of these things would get done if fiscal cliff could be put off the table. it's not going to happen. >> when you talk about not enough goodwill, that's true when the cameras are on. when the cameras are off a lot of these people like each other, they're collegial, they're very much a family, at least in the senate, probably in the house, too. there's three people who are leaving so today being the final day, there are going to be a lot of people saying good-bye to dick lugar, kent conrad, and herb kohl. >> there is a little bit of that going on. it's funny because there were good-bye speeches given before christmas but a lot of those senators are speaking again and so they're certainly milking this for all it's worth because they're here until thursday morning when the new congress begins in the afternoon. >> all right. ed, thanks so much for joining us. still to come, toure's thoughts on this cliff-mas eve. ♪ [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power for up to 10 years in storage.
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. but this is really important, this fiscal cliff is an important element in economic recovery, i hope we get it done. >> cross the aisle. republican congressman tom cole says a deal, any deal, will be hard to get done. >> there's not enough revenue in this package whatever the, quote, number is to fix the fiscal problems for the country. we're going to be in hand to hand warfare beginning in january with the continuing resolution, the debt ceiling and to try and deal with spending issues. >> continued uncertainty about tax and spending policies in 2013 could result in another recession. frustration seems to be the operative word tonight. if no fiscal cliff deal is reached, most everyone's taxes will go up tuesday with deep spending cuts kicking in. earlier i spoke with a democratic and republican strategist. maria cardona and anna navarro. they seemed to echo the sentiment of the voters. >> this is like, when you at the beginning of the year and you're in school at the beginning of the year, you get assigned a big project and you leave it until the last night. when i used to do that, my parents used
. people have said that economists said concern about the fiscal cliff has already done damage. the economy, according to the cob is certain to fall back into recession and negative growth in the new year. is that higher taxes in a way a death knell for the economy or whole picture, of increased taxes and increased spending and no meaningful deficit reduction? >> we're seeing some effect already. you're seeing that in numbers on consumer confidence, on christmas season spending and business investment in hiring. the higher tacks is not the end of the republic. it is bad for growth. but we can still have a strong economy. but i do think we need to deal with uncertainty of what are taxes going forward. this cliff deal is short-term deal. we need leadership congressman was talking about. i wish it was there i agree with him what we really need going forward. lori: congressman rigell, one last comment from you with regards to confidence in washington of the americans are fed up with the wheeling and dealing in washington and no compromise. is there anything you can say to reinforce our confiden
a little while ago even if a fiscal cliff deal is done, the battle between the white house and congressional republicans is far from over. >> i think there's going to be a whole new field of battle when the debt ceiling rolls around. >> all right. let's dig a little bit deeper with ryan lizza. he's washington correspondent for the new yorker magazine. also ali velshi our chief correspondent is joining us. deal or no deal? >> looks like from what dana is reporting, that a deal is in sight. republicans are saying they're going to have a vote tonight. looks like a deal is done. >> with the senate. >> we don't know what the house will do. and the last time john boehner tried to put something on the floor, his caucus rebelled. he'd have to let the house vote its will. >> but you agree if the president of the united states supports it, most of the house democrats will support it. so you don't need a majority of the republicans, you need a few republicans to get to that magic number of 218. >> exactly. obama and pelosi seem to have a firm grasp on the house democrats. it's just a
the final day of fiscal cliff negotiations. >> i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done, but i need a dance partner. >> vice president joe biden is now in on negotiations. >> do i wish that things were more orderly in washington? absolutely. >>> a tour bus crash on an icy oregon highway has killed nine people and injured 20 others. >>> today is december 31st. there's going to be a huge celebration in times square with everyone waiting for that crystal ball to drop. >> just to tell people hey, we were in the crowd in new york city on new year's eve. >>> a fatal plane crash in russia, the impact sending debris flying into oncoming traffic. >>> a scary slip on a frozen lake in the moun tapetains of southern california became a race to save a life. >>> and kim carkardashian is pregnant. >>> intercepted by rob jackson. redskins into the playoffs. rg3. maybe he can solve the fiscal cliff. >>> and all that matters. >> fireworks lit up sydney harbor, beautiful, as people mark the start of 2013. happy new year. >> on "cbs this morning." >>> chuck pagano back on the c
get done on the fiscal cliff. negotiations continuing behind closed doors to avoid some of the the most painful tax hikes and spending cuts in our nation's history. at least one republican congressman believes the president really wants the nation to go over the cliff, he so tax rates can rise. joining me now for his take on what's going on, live from the hill right now, house budget committee member, republican south carolina congressman mick mullvaney. thank you for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> harris: this would be quite an acting job if he really in the end wants us to go off the cliff. >> politicians are good actors. and not only the last couple months, but years, his omb, budget, the money necessary to run the programs he wanted and nancy pelosi tells me there are members in her caucus wants taxes to go up and howard dean not shy saying that taxes should go up on everyone for months. there's a major part of the democrats who want the rates to go up and are public about it. the question, does the president have the interest to stand town that part of t
security will now go up to 6.2% of your salary. lawmakers have been so consumed by the fiscal cliff that it appears little was done to extend the 2010 payroll tax cuts, put in place by president obama two years ago in order to boost the economy. so what does it mean to your wallet? here is how much less you'll bring home if it expires. paychecks shrink $50 a month for those earning $30,000 a year. it shrinks $83 a month for those earning $50,000 a year. and $167 a month for those earning $100,000 a year. now, let's switch to the fiscal cliff. and what that is going to cost you. without a deal, you'll be paying lots more in tachxes. say you're single and working hard, you don't have kids, you earn $80,000 a year. if it does not go into effect, you'll pay an additional $3,000 more than what you already pay in taxes. the middle class families will get hit harder, two kids, both parents work. together you earn $80,000 a year. guess what, if there is no deal, you would owe $6,000 more in taxes next year. with so many variables, the question is how is wall street reacting? the stock marke
to what happens if we go over the fiscal cliff. true, from the very beginning i have favored a comprehensive solution to put our fiscal house in order. something along the lines of wles-simpson planned. perhaps this will not only soften the blow, but also give us a sense of urgency about a grand bargain to repair our fragile house. i'm not so naive as to believe everybody will check their politics at the door. even at this late hour. but this is not a time for politicking, bickering, or partisan games. to allow the country to plunge over the fiscal cliff without any alternative plans to solve -- soft and the landing is completely unacceptable. i cannot think of anything more irresponsible than to let this great country go over the fiscal cliff. to play games with the lives of americans in such a callous way. to jeopardize the financial standing of our country and to alarm our financial markets in ways that could trigger another recession -- something has gone terribly wrong when the biggest threat to the american economy is the american congress. i repeat, sir -- something ha
48 hours to get a fiscal cliff deal done. so can a compromise be reached before your wallet takes a hilt. the anchor of fox news sunday, a guy who knows his biz, chris wallace weighing in this hour. >> dave: maybe wake them up over on capitol hill. good news for the bush family, former president george h.w. bush is now out of intensive to be doing much better and we'll update his condition. >> clayton: and let me pull the spectacles off for this one. a newspaper publishing gun owners names not backing down. and what county they have now. >> dave: and put the glasses on to read. >> clayton: put them on for this part. "fox & friends" hour three starts right now. >> juliet: yes. ♪ >> here, i just looked at my twitter and it's blowing up with people yelling at me for having my tissues behind here. >> dave: etiquette, juliet in for ali. >> juliet: first of all, i have a cold. i can't reach back like this to grab my tissue box, i take a few and put them right here. everybody okay with that? everybody okay with that. >> clayton: talking in the manners section. >> juliet: they're clean
, waiting for a fiscal cliff deal to get done, if one gets done at all. here with us now, daniel arvis. you could be a partner or president. i remember when you came on and you told us to embrace the fiscal cliff. are you still -- are you still wanting to embrace the fiscal cliff? >> yeah, i am. >> is that a good thing? >> i think we have to step back and think about what we're talking about here. we've gotten so caught up in the minutia and in the language that we've imposed on this whole debate that we forget the fiscal cliff is not some sort of disaster. it was put in place to solve a problem. or at least to create a basis for solving a problem. which is -- >> a basis. not solve a problem. >> which is to reduce the deficit. >> right. >> so the way these policies got into place, the so-called fiscal cliff policies, is congress set itself a sort of backstop and said, look, if we can't do it in a better way, we're going to have these across-the-board tax increases, and spending cuts through sequestration and that's going to allow us to cut the deficit. now what we've reduced to the debate t
to avoid the most immediate economic impacts of the fiscal cliff. with 15 hours to go and counting, members of congress are disgusted and embarrassed. >> when the future of the country, you know, rests in the hands of 70 and 80-year-olds who have jet lag, it's probably not the best thing. >> something has done terribly wrong when the biggest threat to our american economy is our american congress. >> the senate will reconvene at 11:00 this morning, but after a day of public gamesmanship and little obvious progress behind the scenes on sunday. >> there's still significant distance between the two sides, but negotiations continue. >> i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done, but i need a dance partner. >> mitch mcconnell called on vice president joe biden to be that dance partner. biden has brokered 11th-hour deals with the republican leader in the past. mcconnell's appeal came just hours after the president appeared on "meet the press" and called out republican leaders by name. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done, not because democrats in congress don't want to g
between the two sides. >> today the final day of fiscal cliff negotiations. >> i want everybody know i'm willing to get this done but i need a dance partner. >>> vice president joe biden is now in on negotiations. >> do i wish things were more order will i in washington? absolutely. >>> a tour bus crashed on an icy oregon highway has killed nine people and injured 20 others. >> today is december 231st. there's going to be a huge celebration in times square with everyone waiting for the crystal ball to drop. >>> new video surfacing from the fate tall plaep crash in russia. sending debris into oncoming traffic. >>> a scary slip on a frozen lake ban an effort to save a life. >>> kim kardashian is pregnant. her boyfriend kanye west broke the news at a concert in atlantic city. >>> heading into the playoffs, rg3. maybe he can solve the fiscal cliff. >>> and all that matters. >> new zealand celebrated a few moments ago shooting fireworks into the sky to welcome 2013. >> on "cbs this morning." >>> chuck pagano was back on the colts' sidelines yesterday cancer-free as the colts took care of th
should have acted months ago to keep the u.s. economy going off the fiscal cliff. >> i find it really hard to sit and listen to people come up now and wring their hands and talk about gee whiz. i hope we can get something done on the last day. we put two people together basically to resolve this. >> the two people were senate republican lea leader mitch mcconnell and joe biden who worked the phones after talks between mcconnell and harry reid stalled. >> discussions continue today on plan to affect the middle class families from the tax increase tomorrow. there are a number of issues in which the two sides are still apart. negotiations are continuing as i speak. >> the agreement would set the threshold for extending the bush tax cuts at $400,000 for individuals and $450,000 for families. i would set the tax rate for upper income people at 39.6%. the rate under president clinton. the states would be taxed at 40% above $5 million for individuals and $10 million for a married couple. unemployment benefits would be extented a year, as with the medicare doc fix. it would permanently fix th
happen again. we'll talk about that. >>> no deal in sight before the so-called fiscal cliff. coming up, an update on what if anything can be done from the ranking democrat on the house budget committee, maryland congressman chris van hollen and new information of kelly o'donnell and check out the "news nation" tumblr page. lots of behind the scenes pictures. i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas. automatically. no hoops to jump through. that's 1% back on... [ toy robot sounds ] 2% on pumpkin pie. and apple. 3% back on 4 trips to the airport. it's as easy as... -[ man ] 1... -[ woman ] 2... [ woman ] 3. [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards card. apply online or at a bank of america near you. >>> we are about a half hour away now with the meeting between president obama and top leaders of both parties. joining the president and vice president, boehner, pelosi, reid and mcconnell. their goal, agree on something before the country falls off the so-cal
. if we can get that done, that takes a big bite out of the fiscal cliff. it avoids the worst outcomes and we're then going to have some tough negotiation necessary terms of how we continue to reduce the deficit, grow the economy, create -- >> but this fight comes back. now, i want to ask you specifically about entitlements, medicare and social security. are you prepared in the first year of your second term to significantly reform those two programs, to go beyond the cuts you've suggested to benefits in medicare, that your own dead commission suggested you would have to do if you were going to shore up medicare at least? are you prepared to do that in your first year of a second term? >> what i've said is i am prepared to do everything i can to make sure that medicare and social security are there not just for this generation and for future generations. >> you have to talk tough to seniors. >> i already have. one of the proposals we made is something called change cpi which basically makes an adjustment in terms of how inflation is calculated on social security, highly unpopular among
of avoiding this fiscal cliff, well, they become slimmer and slimmer and slimmer. >> except they better get something done. if they don't get something done, just about everybody will have a tax increase and see spending cut starting january 1st. what is preventing lawmakers from reaching a deal in representative jack kingston is a republican from georgia. he joins us now from d.c. congressman, good to see you. thank you for being with us. let's just discuss this for a minute. you know, taxes, whether taxes should go up or not is an interesting concept because some people are just religious about it, right? we talked to steven moore, grover norquist, pat toomey. some just think taxes should never go up on people. others think if you increase taxes it will hurt the economy. that may actually have some truth to it. but there's a tone deafness out there that has now superseded all of this, congressman, and it is -- we just heard mitch mcconnell, i don't know why people say things like this, but they make people wonder about legislators saying on the floor of the senate, i worked all day saturd
is pooled them together -- a compassionate alternative to what happens if we go over the fiscal cliff. true, from the very beginning i have favored a comprehensive solution to put our fiscal house in order. something along the lines of the bowles-simpson planned. perhaps this will not only soften the blow, but also give us a sense of urgency about a grand bargain to repair our fragile house. i'm not so naive as to believe everybody will check their politics at the door. even at this late hour. but this is not a time for politicking, bickering, or partisan games. to allow the country to plunge over the fiscal cliff without any alternative plans to solve -- soft and the landing is completely unacceptable. i cannot think of anything more irresponsible than to let this great country go over the fiscal cliff. to play games with the lives of americans in such a callous way. to jeopardize the financial standing of our country and to alarm our financial markets in ways that could trigger another recession -- something has gone terribly wrong when the biggest threat to the american economy is the am
with two days left before the fiscal cliff or shouldn't he sit down and hammer out a deal with the senate republicans and house republicans. do you think a deal gets done? >> i do think a deal will get done. i think it might january 1st. i think we will briefly go over the fiscal cliff. the president worked on the issue months and months. the entire "crisis" is an issue of congress' own making . he was taping the meet the press on saturday. house republicans were cozy and doing nothing on the fiscal cliff. john bone bone took himself out of the negotiations and abdicated responsibility and said he would dole with whatever the senate and president had come to. i happening there is a lot of good proprosals on the table and something will get done, too. >> dave: it appears that senate republicans came a long way in sharing their desire for no taxes raised on the wealthy. $550,000 thres hold for couples is a significant compromise. but can they get anything through the house in terms of getting republican votes today? >> i don't think that will get through the house . the house was elected to
something done so we'll be on fiscal cliff watch on fast money. hopefully we'll have a deal to talk about. it's also about 2013 trades. predictions on the commodity front. top trade in the internet space. all of our traders will be prepared to give their top trades, as well. and of course we have broadcasting tonight in times square, heart of the biggest party in the universe. >> good luck getting home. >> really. >> have a great new year. >> thank you. you, too. >> we'll see you in 2013. here's what you missed if you're just tuning in. >>> welcome to hour three of "squawk on the street." here's what's happening so far. >> the real question is whether or not the president will weigh in and push the democrats in the senate to move forward with a bill today. if that happens, then i think that we can solve this current challenge. >> we ought to be concentrating on how to get government out of the way. get them off the back of small and medium sized businesses, even large corporations. let our economy grow. >> the economy is an incredible ability to self heal itself, but why want to take that
more than they are now. on the fiscal cliff they think this is going to find someone out. it gets done. the debt limit, if we go over it, we get downgraded again. it's unthinkable. it's not completely unthinkable that we could. markets tanks. interest race go way up. the economy is in the tank. it's a much scarier thing, and it would be better for the economy long run if they could get the debt limit as part of this deal. >> they're not going to do it. especially this congress. i want to put up a chart that is probably my favorite chart in all of chart-dom. this gets to the heart of how difficult it is to do this. republicans keep saying stop spending, right? when you get them to sort of be specific, they can't do it, and i think this is the reason why. >> basically it shows that two-thirds of the spending. >> 24% defense. health care spending, which is medicare, and health care for our veterans, and medicaid is 22%. education is only 4% of the budget, and it's the biggest thing. welfare doesn't even show up. it's in other. the question always for me is what is it that republicans want
of the issues the parties said they were concerned about leading into the fiscal cliff. the payroll tax cut is going to expire. no one is talking about extending that. that is the one that gives the biggest bang for the buck. host: if a deal does get done, how much of the cliff aristo going to be staring at? guest: you are staring at one cliff, the payroll tax cut going away. that is 3% of every wage earner up to $100,000 or so. that will have a big economic impact. you are approaching the debt ceiling cliff which will be another standoff. i assume that is where we will get into the discussion of spending cuts that seems to be absent from whatever deal they are talking about. guest: if there is no deal, the full tax cuts go away. the tax increases and spending cuts will go into effect. about iran fiscal policy given the time. but something in between. maybe the minimum of $200 billion and the maximum of $600 billion. host: some statistics with several charts on how it affects you in your income bracket. the richest 20% with scene increase of about $20,000 increase in taxes owed. for those m
to avoid the fiscal clip. it is the fault of congress. they created this fiscal cliff. they did it. no one else imposed this on them. >> the president has never gone to the nation and made a serious speech about dt. he ignored it the first two years. he appoints a commission that he studiously ignores for the next two years. that is why we are at the clip now. he is not serious about the debt. none of his proposals to raise taxes on the rich. he has never put any political capital in entitlement reform our tax reform. he'll talk about it here and there. never invested any capital in it. >> any difference of opinion? >> if it is such a trivial amount, the raising of taxes on the wealthy, then why the squealing, the yelling, the hurt feelings of all this plutocrats? my goodness gracious. i will say this -- right now, he is absolutely right. all the political advantage is with the president, but if this thing comes to a complete halt and falls, then there would be political blame across the board, and it will undermine all public confidence in the public sector. >> all political advances with
senators, our president not to take this over the fiscal cliff, but get something done and take care of us in a sensible way instead of waiting to the last minute on all these different issues. thank you for my time. host: thank you. another comment on our #fiscalcliff, "congress is so incompetent, i hope everyone is so happy about who they voted for in november." the 112 congress will be wrapping up this week. the 113th congress will be in on january 3. we have a number of news reports of. this is about what is going on behind the scene. senator tom harkin weighing in on this on the senate floor. >> i was disturbed to read in the washington post this morning that some kind of agreements are being made here, somehow that democrats have agreed to raise the level from two lenders $50,000 to $450,000 -- from $250,000 to $450,000 and there was an agreement reached that we keep the estate taxes at the $5 million level at 35%. all i can say is, democrats do not agree with that. not at all. what it looks like is it looks like all of the tax things will be made permanent, but all of the things tha
that we are able to resolve this and get it done without taking this nation over the fiscal cliff. minimally, our caucus is unanimous in our support and responsibility to take a vote in the house of representatives. with that, i turn it to our vice chair. >> we do have votes -- i'll be brief. i will simply state that the house majority called us back for votes. today believe voting -- votes are beginning as we speak. our understanding is that none of the votes we will be casting today have anything to do with the deadlines that we face in slightly more than 24 hours. we are here, we are ready, we believe there is a bill that would help address some of these deadlines that we face and the fiscal consequences of not ask -- acting on these deadlines before us. that is the bipartisan-passed bill that would protect middle- class families, many tax increases. one way or another we should get something done. the american people have asked us to do that. i know my colleagues have heard what i heard. i've heard from friends and family, from constituents back home. just get it done. we have
-called fiscal cliff and now has to live by it over the next several hours to see if something can get done. erica? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. chuck todd is nbc's political director. kelly mentioned some constructive movement but then there's this chasm we keep hearing about. is there a chance for a deal? >> i think -- i want to say yes, there's a chance for a deal! they're not that far apart. it really depends on the political motivations of the people at the negotiating table. you think about joe biden and mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell is totally looking at this through a political lens, what is in the best interest of republicans in his view? from what i understand in his view he thinks what's in the best interest of the republican party is getting the tax issue off the table and then having a big knockdown, drag-down fight with the president in six weeks over the debt ceiling. under that scenario, that would tell me, okay, he's likely to want to make a deal. when you look at the actions that republicans threw out that idea of throwing in the social security change and suddenly de
of banished words this year. numbers one and two this year are fiscal cliff and kick the can down the road. now, regardless of today's outcome is the damage already done for congress? whether they come up with a small deal or not here when it comes to the american people, they've already decided congress is useless. >> well, i think those of us who tried to function over the last couple years in congress have been saying that. we can't figure out who even the 10%, who support congress, are. we are totally dysfunctional right now and this is just probably the worst example of it. you know, i heard speaker boehner say a number of times that he doesn't believe in compromise and a lot of republicans say the same thing. they say let's find common ground and act on that. well, there just isn't much common ground. if, in fact, the numbers we're hearing about the senate deal, whether $450,000 threshold or $550,000, that is not a matter of principle. that's just a matter of policy and splitting hairs and differences of dollars. so i think unfortunately we've got a lot of people on the other side of
a government default. republicans have not been part of the " fiscal cliff " discussions in recent days suggesting much still needs to be done if a deal is to be struck and passed through congress by the end of the year. >> sam garner stated that the government may go out of money on december 31st. he stated that the government may not have enough to spend for next month. >> approval ratings for president obama and his cabinet are mixed. a new poll shows 52 percent of people surveyed approved of the president's performance while 43 percent disapprove. but as president joe biden's numbers are in line with the president. 54 percent approve of his job performance while 40 percent do not. first lady michelle obama has a 73 percent approval rating. all going secretary of state hillary clinton is also popular with a 66 percent approval rating. >> a new gallup poll shows a majority of americans supported stricter gun laws but most are against banning assault weapons. 58 percent of americans now say that they do support stricter gun laws. that is up from 43% in october 2011. 48% of the public s
they must know, " a major setback. >> as well marked makers or on avoiding the fiscal cliff. talks get " a major setback over social security benefits. both sides agree to push for. >> i wonder want to know i want to get this done. i need a dance partner. >> vice president joe biden is apparently that person for which mcconnell. >> the two are taking over talks. if nothing is resolved by midnight tonight. tax breaks for all americans will increase. democrats say it will mean about $2,000 for the average middle class family. >> a michigan woman said to me that is a month worth of groceries. also gets up to three years transportation to and from work. >> democrats want taxes to increase for americans earning over to london $50,000. republicans want texas a the same period >> republicans want taxes to stay the same period >> i offered over a trillion dollars in additional spending cuts so that we would have $2 of spending cuts for every $1 of increased revenue. >> the senate reconvenes at 11:00 a.m. so as americans celebrate the beginning of 2013 they may wake up wishing it was 2012 when
and no beauty. >> what? >> ed, truth be known, and we see this fiscal cliff and the calamity of the day on january 1st, tonight is true the white house dot much care if they get it on the first or the fifth? >> reporter: you're right, with withholding, some people will not feel the effects of a tax increase the first couple of days, you might have time to finagle that, the treasury department has that authority. the fact of the matter, what they're more nervous about in the white house and republicans on the hill are unclear what will happen. will it be a tarp moment like in 2008 when the tarp legislation got voted down and president bush was imploring the fell mrow republicans. it's a bitter pill to swallow. they voted it down and the markets plunged 5, 600, 700 points and everybody figured it out. what's going to happen with the markets, they're closed new years day, but when they open january 2nd, we have several consecutive days the markets have gone down not by a ton, but if they're plunging on january 2nd, that's what they're more nervous about. >> andrea. >> we've heard a lot of
i say this one last time? "fiscal cliff"? [ laughter ] >> that's it. >> never going to say it again. >> no more. >> there's it for 2012. >> are they going to get it done? >> reporter: i used to think they were but then when boehner couldn't get the votes for plan b i thought oh, my god, we're in trouble. >> do your job. >> we'll see what happens. >> melissa, thank you so much. >>> remember, you can find more of melissa's segments on cbssf.com/mornings. >>> time for a look at what's coming up later on "cbs this morning." norah o'donnell joins us now live in new york with the license on the big show. good morning. >> reporter: hey, good morning to you, frank and michelle. we're talking about secretary of state hillary clinton. she has been hospitalized after doctors found a blood clot so we're going to talk to dr. john lapook about just how serious this may be. also, we're following the last- minute negotiations to avoid the "fiscal cliff." that's required. is there going to be a deal today? we're all waiting and plus we'll take a look back at the biggest news stories:2012. we'll see
in the fiscal cliff negotiations. national security is also on the line with massive cuts at the defense department as part of the deal. leon pineda is prepping to send layo layoffs. >> if there is a deal done that doesn't set aside thense cuts because we already cut 489 billion out of the defense department i am disappointed as the president as commander-in-chief and disappointed with the republican party for letting this happen. >> sequestration was the penalty they imposed on itself last year when they failed to find $1.2 trillion of cuts they live with. now mhalf are directed at the pentagon but the dramatic across the board cuts can be offset by raising taxes on the rich. >> if we have raised revenue by the wealthy paying more that is sufficient to turn off the sectsec quest tore the automatic cuts. >> senator graham told me he thinks it is possible to find 600 billion cuts elsewhere to suspend for a decade but a bipartisan agreement probably can't be reached until february or march. peter doocy, fox news. >>> 17 after the hour. still ahead is one of your new year's resolutions to s
to you, melissa. >> for more on the fiscal cliff negotiations i am joined now by democratic strategist richard goodstein and republican strategist terry holt. thank you both for being here. >> sure. >> hi, melissa. >> terry, let's start with you. what do you think is going on behind closed doors right now on capitol hill? >> i think i'm still talking about the "meet the press" interview by the president this morning. you know, the american people elected president obama to lead, but he spent most of the morning today playing the blame game, and i say let's get the blame game over with and start talking about solutions for the american people because, you know, every -- every dollar you take, you can take every dollar from every rich person in america and still not balance this nation's budget. until we start talking about real spending cuts and structural reform to the entitlement programs, we're going to go broke. we'll go the way of greece, and the president hasn't moved off that. he's still playing politics with these issues, and frankly i think most of us now don't care who gets th
been doing well so i think the market wants to do better. that having been said the fiscal cliff will turn out to be not a maxi deal but a mini deal and will clip the economy not by 1% but a 2% and a 60% chance something will get done but that's where we come out on it right now. a little bit harder hit to the economy. >> don't adjust your sets, everybody. this is what bob sounds like today. >> this is a different exchange here. >> not doing your imitation of david? >> what do you think that the seasonal factors are a major reason why the markets are holding up so well? if you look at the havens, gold, treasuries, for example, the dollar, there's no sign of panic in the haven. >> silver is down. you've seen a little bit of a lift in the vix, closer to 20. that's not bad, a normalization type of thing. treasuries have sold off a little bit. that means the patient is leaving the hospital. the patient was on intensive care earlier in the year back in june. the biggest day of the year was june 19th. that's the day of the second greek election when that guy came in who did not take th
. the talks are aimed at preventing us from going over the fiscal cliff and they are not making a lot of progress. the two sides are talking, and that is the good news. that is the best that can be said for what is happening on capitol hill. if you wished that the deadline would push the democrats and the republicans to get to a deal, we are still, don, waiting for that to happen. i suspect that i have a better chance of growing hair than we have of getting a deal tonight. >> yes, probably. i mean -- [ laughter ] -- you are right, pretty pictures, and that is about it at this point, and nothing pretty is happening right now, because, ali, in less than 30 hours before we go over the fiscal cliff, and it is not clear whether a last-minute deal is even possible or whether this is going to be all about shifting blame. i want you to listen to senate majority leader harry reid. >> with 36 hours left until the country goes over the cliff, i remain hopeful and realistic about the prospects of reaching a bipartisan agreement, and at some point in the negotiating process, it is obvious when the
mcconnell says about the situation. the subject is fiscal cliff update. colleagues. i appreciate your patience and know you are anxious to understand where we stand on the package. the tax piece is complete and done as of last evening at 1:45 a.m. i thought the entire deal was done. the white house called his morning asking that we also turn off the sequester. the white house has yet to the agree to the $100 beautiful various proposals i suggested but we are continuing to talk. in other words, they wanted that deal to be done. it's not. arthel: thank you so much. we are back in two minutes. arthel: a brand-new hour, we start with a fox news alert. there is just 10 hours left for law makers to resolve a debate that began with cutting our nation's debt and now threatens to raise taxes on nearly every american. brand-new hour of "america live." rick: these last-minute meetings, as we have been getting reports about significant progress. but with lawmakers still at odds over the particulars of the plan threatening to take shape. the possibility of a midnight tax hike is very real. >> repo
. >>> with the fiscal cliff hours away and politicians yet to reach a solution. the stock market is struggling to decide which way to go. some investors still expecting a deal to get done in time. it's really not unusual for a high-profile negotiations to go down to the wire. taking a live lock at the big board, the dow is up 3. what potentially could break a five- day losing streak. the nasdaq is up 18 and the s&p is up 3. 8:45. this move, secretary of state hillary clinton remains under observation at a new york state stop being treated for a blood clot. rene marsh has more. >> reporter: we know that hillary clinton is expected to remain at new york presbyterian hospital for the next 48 hours. now, doctors discovered the blood clot during a followup examination related to a concussion she suffered this month. that's according to her spokesman. it's unclear exactly where this blood clot is lowcated. doctors continue -- located. doctors continue to monitor her. she's being treated with anti- coagulants. she came down with the flu, became dehydrated and fainted. that's what caused the concussion. this al
the fiscal cliff with a well thought out changes throughout the budget on the spending, on entitlements, on taxes. we have to do it all and we have to do it thoughtfully and proactively. what i fear we will see is a grab bag of things that people may want to get rid of. they basically want to make them disappear, so the wave the magic pen and say we will keep the policies in place but we will not pay for it appeared that what i'm afraid we will see. what i hope they will do is put in place the next steps. so if they do something that avert the cliff, which would be a good thing, i hope they have an agreement so january the members come back to town and keep working on this. this is not an issue they can walk away from. until we deal with a fiscal challenges, be cannot deal with any of the problem. we really are devising our economy. the consequences of inaction here on fixing our depth is a and death situation are tremendous. the people who will bear the biggest cost of this is the next generation. i think it reflects an incredible unwillingness to do the right thing by our kids and gra
cleverly brought you back to the fiscal cliff debate because i want to ask you about this. if you look at the expiration of the bush tax cuts, something else that would go way in 11 and a half hours, that's one-and-a-half percent of gdp. that is a big chunk of this nation's economy that goes away in spending power. i know you and i disagree, but we agree here. some of these tax cuts need to stay in place. >> without question, without question. there is certainly a healthy debate to be had about at what level you maintain the tax cuts. so close to seeing all those tax cuts go away. a completely ridiculous congress inflicted wound on the economy that is very difficult to square with reality. certainly i understand that retroactively they can do a lot to restore a lot of the damaged, but we are so close to the purposes -- press the does, it makes no sense. cheryl: last and final question. i know this is tough to answer, but we have had some really good things happen. the recovery, calling it a recovery, the fed that has been more than generous and throwing money into the system. kendis ec
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